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July 28th, 2008

More fun car shopping!

If any of you remember my post here: http://community.livejournal.com/bad_service/1795393.html, you'll know that we were STILL car shopping.

My sister found a great car online on cars.com at a dealership in Queensboro, NY. It's a two door 2003 Honda Civic with about 60,000 miles on it, but it's listed at $9,500 which is in our budget. She calls up the dealership (Paragon Pre-Owned Honda, an incredibly shady, sketchy place!), speaks to two different people about the car. It's still for sale, we could drive it home today, there are no issues with the car, there's no deposit on it yet. Great! She's excited, tells my mom and I about the car, and we decide since it's about 2 hours away from our house in Dutchess County, NY, so my mother, my sister and I decided to make a road trip down there.

If you've ever driven from Dutchess County through lower Westchester, on the Tri-Boro bridge, near Manhattan, it's incredibly stressful. We make the trip down there, and we find the dealership. Of course we have to walk another 3 blocks down the road because the dealership is incorrectly listed, and we drove to Paragon Honda instead. There is a Paragon Acura, a Paragon 'Bad Credit No Problem!' dealership, a Paragon Toyota, and a Paragon Mazda. We finally get to the right dealership. We ask to speak to someone about the car. We start talking to one of the salesman about the car. He looks up the car and tells us "Oh that car isn't for sale. We don't have the title yet". It won't be for sale for about another 10 days.

My sister flips. She then says "I spoke with TWO people TODAY about that car. Why didn't someone tell me this before we drove two hours down here to look at it?". He has no answer, but he says he'll talk to the manager, but in the meantime 'Can he help us find another car?'. He has plenty of other Civics in the the $13,000-16,000 range. Too high. We can down specifically because the phantom car was listed so cheaply. The guy can tell we are PISSED...so he goes out for a smoke. And brings us each a nice bottle of warm water. I didn't mind because it was Poland Spring, but I thought it was a cheap attempt to quiet us down. He tells us he will see if his manager can give us a lower price on a comparable car.

First he assumes my sister wants an automatic. She doesn't care, she can drive either. Then he asked her what color she wanted. She doesn't care about that either! She's more concerned about the miles on the car, if it has A/C, a CD-player, those sort of things. The he starts talking about a car he has. Apparently it's "certified". I was getting a pretty shady feeling from the guy, so I asked him what "certified meant". Does this mean they pay for repairs, etc until 100,000 miles or what? Apparently, we BUY it certified, but it's not actually certified. He confused the hell out of me explaining it, but basically at one point in the time the car was certified, but it won't be certified after we buy it. We are not interested in that car, and he seems annoyed.

So he takes us on to the Honda lot. We find something we like, but the manager won't budge from the $13,000 sticker price. We find an Acura, but the manager wouldn't budge from a $14,000 price. It's about 2pm and my mom wants to start heading home because NYC/Westchester traffic is a nightmare, and she has two other kids, and a puppy at home. The guy decides to show us the car we came down for. It is located in a totally separate lot, the Paragon 'No Credit No Problem!' lot. This isn't a bad thing, but obviously it wouldn't be certified, and we felt like we had been lied to. The car doesn't look like the car in the pictures...there are aftermarket rims on the car, and a weird spoiler on the back. We thought this car was certified also? Guess again...the website says it certified, but the salesman tells us it's not because of the aftermarket rims, and radio. We are PISSED.

We decided to leave. A few days later...one of the receptionists calls my mother about the cars we looked at, and asks why we didn't buy a car from them. My mom tells her that the car salesman was sleazy, the website was extremely misleading, and we felt we had been lied to.

So basically, see a nice car on their website, drive 2 hours to see car, car is not sellable. Dealership lied to us. Dealership is sketchy. "Certified cars" aren't really certified, and the managers thought water would calm our anger. Don't buy a car from Paragon Honda in Queensboro, NY!


On a happier note, we found a different car, in a little used auto dealership in Peekskill. The salesman treated my mother and my sister like gold, offered them water or coffee, knocked down the price, and produced all records of oil changes, and repairs, and offered a 2 year warranty on a car with 95,000 miles on it. They left happy, and my sister finally has a car.

Pet Adoption Issues...

To start: For months, I've been searching petfinder.com for the perfect dog, and the other day, I came across Patsy -- a 6 month old Westie/Chihuahua mix. My last dog was a Westie, and she looked like she needed a good home, so I inquired about adopting her, and here's where I think it gets....rough.



Is this a shelter, or a puppy mill disguised as a shelter?Collapse )

I don't know if this is *REALLY* bad service, and I don't even know if maybe it was customers_suck, but I figured this was a decent place to get it off my chest. All I want to do is give a dog a loving home and get some companionship. SPCA/Humane Society it is! Lemme know if this post needs to be deleted.

Pharmacy... and Dentist

Well this is kind of two parts. I'm from Canada, but I live in Florida. on June 23rd, I was on vacation in Canada and went to the dentist to have some fillings taken care of while I was still under my parents insurance. I had been to that dentist's partner the August prior. They took xrays the first time, in August 2007, when they did the fillings I had on the left side.

 Last month I went back to get the right side fixed up. They didn't take xrays this time, even though such time had passed. So, a different dentist does my four fillings, packing my back, bottom right tooth plenty full, I felt the nerve, despite the anesthetic.  5 weeks later, I need a root canal because all of the fillings were packed too full and it's rubbing right up against the nerve. This morning I went to an endodontist, for them to figure out exactly what's wrong. Not only did they pinpoint exactly why I need the root canal, plus the xrays they did show that I have 4 empacted teeth that need to be removed before I actually get my wisdom teeth (people in my family get them late, so I still have a little time, I'm 18) otherwise It'll really freaking hurt. So. I'm wondering how no other dentist I've ever been to has noticed this, or mentioned it.

So, that sucks, but that's not actually the reason I'm posting.

The endodontist gave me a prescription for Vicoprofen, which is supposed to be a good painkiller, and considering I'm getting my root canal tomorrow, I am in extreme pain. We went to Walgreens to get it filled. They told us 45 minutes, so we went home, and waited around for an hour, while I sat in bed trying really hard to not get out my tylenol, which I'm not supposed to take due to an ulcer, but it works so well. So we leave again for the pharmacy, it's now about an hour and a half after we dropped it off. We get there and they tell me it'll be another 5 minutes, so I go to sit down at the chairs right in front of the counter.

We waited, and watched, for the next 45 minutes as people drop off and pick up prescriptions. They obviously forgot about my prescription, but I'm sitting right in front of them, shaking and crying from the pain. I can't speak. My husband is sitting next to me getting more and more pissed off, and he's a VERY quiet person, so I didn't expect him to ask about it. People in line are looking over at me and giving me a sympathetic look. The employee I checked in with is dealing with a man who was freaking out about something to do with his doctor and not an issue with the pharmacy. At that point, I just want my painkillers so I can go home and sleep and not be in pain. Finally the employee looks over at us and asks for a last name, My husband tells her, and another 10 minutes go by when I'm paged to the front, despite me being right there. Husband goes to pay, we don't get an apology for the wait, and I just want to get the hell out of there.

I don't think I'll be going back to that pharmacy.

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